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Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Fwd: Next steps : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Mon, 03 July 2023 11:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Fwd: Next steps : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing
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On Jul 3, 2023, at 3:10 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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> I think this message bounced back to me. Resending.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
>> Date: June 27, 2023 at 21:15:43 EDT
>> To: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
>> Cc: "dns-privacy@ietf.org" <dns-privacy@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Next steps : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing
>> 
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Brian Haberman wrote:
>> 
>>> 1. The authors verify that the implementations listed in Appendix A is up-to-date. The chairs will request that this list be retained in the published RFC.
>> 
>> What is the reasoning to override RFC 7942 and leaving this in?
>> There is good reason not to leave this in, which is why 7942 instructs
>> to remove it. It prevents advertising, namedropping, immortalizing
>> information that is quickly going to be outdated, and punishes
>> implementations that wait on the RFC to implement the specification.
>> 
>> Note also that Appendix A is not in the format specified in Section 2
>> of 7942. Without any versioning, license info and contact info, I wonder
>> how useful it is right now, and even more important, years down the
>> line.
>> 
>> It also only lists two unspecified versions of known DNS software,
>> 2 tools I as a DNS opensource packager have never heard of, an auth
>> nameserver that doesn't mention probing at all, and the root zone that
>> does no probing.
>> 
>> I think this section should be removed before publication.

I'd like to follow RFC 7942 (which is also BCP 202) so we don't get in trouble during the IESG review.

--Paul Hoffman

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