Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations
Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com> Wed, 28 August 2019 18:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:40 PM Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> wrote: > This starts a Call for Adoption for > draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations > > The draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations/ > > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption > by DPRIVE, and comment to the list, clearly stating your view. > > I am in favor of adoption of this draft by DPRIVE. My view is as follows: - DNS is an ecosystem which by definition requires interoperability. - Authority operators are a distinct subset of the participants in the DNS ecosystem - Authority operators of registered domains (as distinct from delegation-only domains) have operational concerns (including scaling issues and performance issues) that are appropriate to consider BEFORE the development of ADoT itself. - I.e. The draft should be input to the ADoT development process, similar to a requirements document. - Doing development of ADoT without this would be another example of IETF "paper engineering", which while attractive to some participants, is very harmful to reasonably mature ecosystems. (The "paper engineering" practice is harmful even in green-field, IMHO.) - Operational considerations != deployment guidelines. This is basically a pre-emptive feedback to the standards design, based on known issues that will affect any flavor of ADoT, no matter what it looks like. - Deployment guidelines to operators would follow implementations, which would follow standard development, which *should* take into consideration a variety of factors, which this document covers. - There is work to be done on the document, but it is a great start. > Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc. > All of the above. Brian Dickson (Speaking for myself, but with the viewpoint of someone doing both authority server operation and software development on authority server software, intending to implement ADoT.) > > This call for adoption ends: 28 August 2019 > > Thanks, > Brian & Tim > > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-privacy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy >
- [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-adot-o… Brian Haberman
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Hugo Connery
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Hugo Maxwell Connery
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Christian Huitema
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… James Galvin
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Brian Dickson
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Brian Dickson
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… John Levine
- Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-ad… Brian Haberman