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Re: [dns-privacy] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Wed, 07 October 2020 21:08 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 14:08:45 -0700
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To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, DNS Privacy Working Group <dns-privacy@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis@ietf.org, Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>, dprive-chairs@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:42 PM Warren Kumari via Datatracker <
noreply@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> My DISCUS is specifically around the"The Alleged Public Nature of DNS
> Data" /
> "It has long been claimed that "the data in the DNS is public" section --
> it
> seems to be unnecessarily creating and then shooting down a strawman. The
> "the
> data in the DNS is public" aphorism talks is more about the
> confidentiality one
> can expect **publishing** data in the DNS, not the privacy of the lookups.
>

Some discussions I've seen have centered on the idea that resolver
selection in combination with DoH/DoT could lead to the exposure of private
names.

I do not think this is an important issue, but some people clearly do.

thanks,
Rob

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