Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-for-free
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Fri, 25 March 2016 23:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-for-free
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 08:33:28AM +1000, George Michaelson wrote: > Very strong +1. The % of incoming query with DO set is far, far higher > than the % of incoming query seen at authority who subsequently ask > for DS/DNSKEY at zone and parent. There is a good, strong indication > that resolvers pass DO as a compile/run flag of capability to handle > additional records in response, not as an indication of intent to > perform any function using them. I might feel more comfortable if the proposal required DO, but AFAICT it doesn't (I might have misread, of course. I found the I-D a little terse). If it does require DO, however, we're back to requiring EDNS0. In that case, we could just use an EDNS0-based signal. As I think many here know, I am not of the get-off-my-lawn persuasion for DNS innovations. I don't think it's a bad idea in principle. I'm just aware that we have this long history, and that history was based on a certain kind of conservatism that is arguably appropriate to a technology quite as fundamental to the Internet functioning as the DNS is. If we're going to abandon that conservatism, I think it needs quite a lot more early IETF buy-in than we might get by developing this work here in DNSOP. The more signal we can get to suggest that DNS actors are ok with the innovation, the lower I think that bar gets. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-for-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Joao Damas
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Darcy Kevin (FCA)
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… George Michaelson
- [DNSOP] Stub resolvers and A+AAAA (was Introducin… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Introducing draft-vavrusa-dnsop-aaaa-… Andrew Sullivan