Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-05

Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com> Sun, 16 October 2016 15:06 UTC

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From: Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 10:06:17 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-05
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On 10 October 2016 at 12:33, Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 01:56:42AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> > If the IETF was setting servers that went and checked DNS servers
> > and informed the operators then the IETF would be in the business
> > of enforcing protocols.  At this stage I don't see the IETF doing
> > that nor is this document asking the IETF to do that.
> >
> > The is a difference between innovation and not exercising care /
> > lazyness.
> >
> > Returing FORMERR because you see a EDNS flag you don't understand
> > is not innovation.
> >
> > Returing FORMERR because you see a EDNS option you don't understand
> > is not innovation.
> >
> > Returing FORMERR because you see a EDNS version you don't understand
> > is not innovation.
> >
> > If there was anything innovative in what I'm seeing I'd be all for
> > it but there isn't.
>
> Amen.  This draft documents widely problematic behaviour that is
> seen much too often.  It is good to have it all written down in
> one place.
>

I agree.  It is very useful in that respect.

The specific issue we're discussing here is whether the draft can/should
require certain actions from DNS operators based on the behaviour of child
zones.