Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-05
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Mon, 10 October 2016 17:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-05
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 01:56:42AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > If the IETF was setting servers that went and checked DNS servers > and informed the operators then the IETF would be in the business > of enforcing protocols. At this stage I don't see the IETF doing > that nor is this document asking the IETF to do that. > > The is a difference between innovation and not exercising care / > lazyness. > > Returing FORMERR because you see a EDNS flag you don't understand > is not innovation. > > Returing FORMERR because you see a EDNS option you don't understand > is not innovation. > > Returing FORMERR because you see a EDNS version you don't understand > is not innovation. > > If there was anything innovative in what I'm seeing I'd be all for > it but there isn't. Amen. This draft documents widely problematic behaviour that is seen much too often. It is good to have it all written down in one place. -- Viktor.
- [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-is… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-respons… Matthew Pounsett