Re: [DNSOP] More after onion? was Re: Some distinctions and a request

[hellekin <[e-mail]>]

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On 07/02/2015 10:05 AM, Edward Lewis wrote:
> 
> You're right.  To underscore, it's because of the groups that
> don't engage, and have no responsibility to do so, that the IETF
> has to "defend" itself.
> 
>> It wouldn't take much work
> 
> Keep in mind that the IETF isn't a "thing", it's a collection
> of people volunteering time.  What I mean to say, not much work,
> but it's like trying to jump out of the ocean back into a boat.
>

I could not agree more with Str4d.  Processes are not at fault: aren't
we having a rough consensus about the Internet as an open society?

For your information, draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00 was
published on *November 14, 2013* [0]. It has been submitted to 4
revisions to date, without counting the newly split drafts at the
request of DNSOP list members into a draft per system (.bit [1], .exit
[2], GNS [3], and .i2p [4]).

As a final comment to help you catch up with "the process", the .alt
draft [5] first appeared on June 06, 2015, and the original mention of
.onion was removed from its fifth revision following my request to
confirm that .onion was not covered by this draft (per the draft
author.) I think you know this because your comments were also included
in this version of the .alt draft.

I am very surprised that you did not read the P2PNames draft, and hope
you will now read the 5 drafts that came from it (I include .onion [6]
to the 4 mentioned above).

Regards,

==
hk

P.S.: As Christian Grothoff mentioned, I was interested in making these
5 drafts leanier, following the .onion model, and bring the (common)
details into an informational RFC instead. If you think 5 drafts are too
much reading, that might help, especially as there's a lot of redundancy
from one to the next.

[0]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-nam
es/00/
[1]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-bit
/
[2]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-exi
t/
[3]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-gns
/
[4]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-i2p
/
[5]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/
[6]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld/

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