Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-dns-qname-minimisation
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Mon, 20 October 2014 19:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-dns-qname-minimisation
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Just to expand on my comments after some arguments made against. The reason I think the WG should adopt the work item is that the original design of DNS is now defective in the light of contemporary privacy concerns. There is no reason that the operators of registries should have sight of any information they do not have a need to know. The business relationships built up over the years on the assumption that this data will be available and for sale to the highest bidder are of neither consequence nor concern. These practices are going to be insisted on regardless of choices made by this group. If indeed minimization has operational effects it is much better to document them and allow parties to avoid unintended consequences. At this point however, there is no evidence of harm. Proof of very substantial showing of harm should be necessary to block consideration of a proposal at the outset. Opponents will after all have plenty of time to make objections in WG process, that being the point of WG process. It would be a terrible mistake to reject this work without a hearing because of the mere possibility that a problem could occur. If indeed the state of the DNS is as fragile as is suggested it will soon collapse of its own accord. I rather suspect however that the fears are unfounded. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com > wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear DNSOP WG, >> >> After discussions about the landing spot of this document, DNSOP vs the >> newer DNS Privacy WG, it was realized the updated DNSOP charter >> specifically had work like this in mind. >> >> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-bortzmeyer-dns-qname- >> minimisation. >> >> The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ >> doc/draft-bortzmeyer-dns-qname-minimisation/ >> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption >> by DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >> > > yes > > > >> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc. >> > > <nohats> > yes > </nohats> > > >> This call for adoption ends Monday 20-October-2014 at 23:59 >> >
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Olafur Gudmundsson
- [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-dns-q… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Daniel Migault
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Gilles Massen
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Patrik Wallström
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Dan York
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Francis Dupont
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Peter Koch
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-d… Joe Abley