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Re: [DNSOP] RFC 6781 and double signature KSK rollover

tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 25 October 2016 15:35 UTC

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:35:22 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] RFC 6781 and double signature KSK rollover
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I agree with Matthijs.  Looking at 6781 that makes the most sense.

tim

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl>
wrote:

>
>
> On 25-10-16 15:15, Marcos Sanz wrote:
>
>> Matthijs,
>>
>> my attention has been brought to the KSK rollover double-signature
>>>>
>>> style
>>
>>> described in 6781 and what I think is a mistake/oblivion there.
>>>>
>>> Section
>>
>>> 4.1.2 states
>>>>
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>> You are right: DS_K_2 may only be provided to the parent *after* the TTL
>>>
>>
>> of DNSKEY_K_1 has passed. RFC 7583 has more accurate timings for
>>> rollovers. The corresponding timeline is described in section 3.3.1.
>>>
>>
>> thanks for the pointer. RFC 7583 does it right.
>>
>> That begs for the question: how to deal with the wrong information
>> propagated in 6781? Submit errata? Label it "Updated by 7583"?
>>
>
> I think an errata is appropriate.
>
> Best regards,
>   Matthijs
>
>
>
>
>> Best,
>> Marcos
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