Re: [DNSOP] data at delegation points

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Tue, 14 April 2020 15:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] data at delegation points
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Ralf Weber wrote on 2020-04-14 08:57:
> Moin!
> 
> On 14 Apr 2020, at 17:43, Paul Vixie wrote:
>> DS should never have been placed at the delegation point, and has led 
>> to a decade or longer of bugs and corner cases and complexity. it 
>> ought to have been a nephew domain of the delegation point, but, in 
>> the parent:
>>
>> so instead of example.com DS, it should have been example._dnssec.com DS.
> Just to clarify if I understand that correct. The DS for example.net 
> would be example._dnssec.net DS. Correct? So would you propose to do 
> example._ns2.net NS2 to distinguish parent and child NS2 records?

i didn't understand the semantics of having more than one NS2, so i 
don't know.

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P Vixie