Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns
Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org> Fri, 29 April 2016 11:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns
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Stephane, At 2016-04-29 10:58:50 +0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 04:50:42PM -0400, > Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote > a message of 24 lines which said: > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns > > Summary: I think it must *not* be published as it is. > > The biggest problem is that it fails to explain why it is necessary to > provide a PTR. RFC 1912, quoted, is just informational and its > sentence "Every Internet-reachable host should have a name" does not > use RFC 2119 terms. RFC 1912 was written in 1996 when one computer per > home was already a lot! Now, every home has four or five connected > machines and it will probably increase a lot in the next years. I see > no point in giving a PTR to any Internet-connected printer or > webcam. (And it raises privacy issues, see my last remark.) > > It seems this document did not take into account the lessons from the > failure of draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations (which is > in the references but never mentioned in the draft, something that the > RFC editor will complain about). Basically, it seems there is no > consensus inside IETF about the PTR so this draft should be careful. Disclaimer: Personally I think that the whole notion of reverse IP is ridiculous, especially in IPv6. I proposed that we skip the whole notion in IPv6, possibly providing some alternate, non-DNS, method to get hostname from IPv6 addresses for the rare case where that is useful. However, administrators seem to really like reverse DNS. I don't know why. It's a mystery to me, but they do. Having said all of that, I don't see any strong requirement that this document provide motivation for reverse DNS solutions for IPv6. People ask about the problem, and want solutions, and it would be good to have a document to point them to with some help. Cheers, -- Shane
- [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Richard Clayton
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Christian Huitema
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… huitema
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Richard Clayton
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… sthaug
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Howard, Lee
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dn… Mark Andrews