Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yao-dnsop-accompanying-questions-01.txt

神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp> Thu, 27 October 2016 16:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yao-dnsop-accompanying-questions-01.txt
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At Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:55:49 +0800,
"Jiankang Yao" <yaojk@cnnic.cn> wrote:

> >If it's also intended to be used between recursive and
> >   authoritative, how does it handle a delegation answer?
>
> Most RRs needed to parallel query are normally located in the same zone.

That's probably true, but since this proposal is quite generic we
can't simply assume that in the description of the protocol.

> In case of that some sub-domain names are delegated, the Delegation information will be returned to the recursive server.
> the recursive server then check the sub-domain based on the Delegation information and get the answer.

I don't disagree with that as a high level observation.  But my point
in the question was that if it's supposed to work for delegation, it
should describe how it should work more clearly (specifically what
will be answered in the response from the authoritative server, and
specifically how the recursive server should react to it, etc).

> > - Should we assume SOA('s) in the authority section for negative
> >   answers?
>
> yes.

IMO things like this should also be explicitly included in the doc.

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JINMEI, Tatuya