Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-02.txt

[Andrew Sullivan <[e-mail]>]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49:47AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:

> > "Name Error" as a synonym for NXDOMAIN seems like it is worth including, somewhere.
> 
> Are you sure that "name error" always refers to NXDOMAIN? If not, this is not a can of worms we should open.
> 

To the extent it doesn't, such usage is not in line with STD 13.
NXDOMAIN is the neologism here.  RFC 1035 names RCODE 3 as "Name
Error".

> > In "origin", (a), the usual word for this in my experience is "apex". It would seem as well to mention apex here. If we're able to provide value judgements, we might recommend apex over this use of origin.
> 
> "Apex" is defined two terms later".
> 

I think Joe is right that people usually use "apex" to mean "origin"
in the way the document defines it.  I think we are attempting to
reinforce a distinction that used to be in the RFCs but that seems to
have blurred over time: the difference between the graph-theoretic
space of the DNS and the implementation.  It might be worth adding a
sentence, however, that notes the way the terms are often used
interchangably.

> I searched for supporting material in RFC 5155 that could explain why to use opt-out in words that would make sense in this document; I failed. If you find some, that would be great.
> 

If I recally correctly, it was excluded on socio-political grounds.

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