Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org> Tue, 01 June 2021 07:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial
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Hugo,

While I find it a pity that the consensus seems to be that just 
including the serial instead of the entire SOA is the best way forward, 
I don't strongly object, since it can indeed be useful for debugging as 
proposed.

Sorry if I missed earlier discussion, but if a query to a resolver 
arrived with the option sent, why not let the resolver pass it along and 
return the value? And maybe cache the value if desired? Or even use the 
option with some or all queries upstream without being asked? Surely 
being able to see the serial associated with records at a resolver could 
also be useful?

At the very least, maybe the draft should be agnostic towards 
non-authoritative servers?

So instead of:

    This EDNS option is aimed only to authorative servers for a zone.
    Resolvers and forwarders should ignore the option.  It's only
    intended for hop-to-hop communication (not transitive).

Maybe:

    This EDNS option is aimed only at authoritative servers for a zone.
    It's only intended for hop-to-hop communication (not transitive).
    Resolver and forwarder behavior is undefined.

Cheers,

--
Shane

On 31/05/2021 18.15, Hugo Salgado wrote:
> Dear group.
> Thanks for the call for adoption. We the authors are already working
> on -01 with the comments made a few weeks ago. I hope to send it in
> the next days for your review/approval.
> 
> Hugo
> 
> On 10:26 28/05, Tim Wicinski wrote:
>> All
>>
>> We had a lot of good discussion of this draft when it first came out, and
>> the chairs want to put up a call for adoption.
>>
>> If you have already stated adoption of this draft, we will count those so
>> there is no need to repeat yourself.
>>
>>
>> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial
>>
>> The draft is available here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial/
>>
>> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by
>> DNSOP, and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>>
>> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
>>
>> This call for adoption ends: 22 June 2021
>>
>> Thanks,
>> tim wicinski
>> DNSOP co-chair
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