Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-03.txt
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> Fri, 10 December 2004 11:11 UTC
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From: JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp>
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Subject: Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-03.txt
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>>>>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:29:00 +0900, >>>>> JINMEI Tatuya <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> said: >> This is a working group last call on the "Observed DNS Resolution >> Misbehavior" draft, draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-03.txt, which we >> hope to submit to the IESG for consideration as a BCP document. >> This last call will terminate at 17:00 UTC on 6 December 2004. >> Please clearly state to the mailing list whether you support or oppose >> this draft going to the IESG. >> Please do not express an opinion if you have not read the draft. >> As always, please discuss substantive issues on the WG mailing list. >> Minor editorial comments may be sent directly to the draft authors >> (please CC the WG chairs on any such comments so that we can track >> this). > I think my concern to the previous last call (attached below) is still > there. It's my bad that I've not sent a proposed text to address this > that I promised before, but if you give me some more time, I'll make a > suggestion and send it to the list next week. Below is my proposed text to address my concern. I'd first like to proposed an additional paragraph at the end of section 2.2. And then I'd propose some changes in the paragraph of Section 2.2.1. In the proposed text I assume we can refer to draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-02.txt to provide background information, but I believe we can also convey the same point without the reference if we do not want to have an additional reference. Thanks, JINMEI, Tatuya Communication Platform Lab. Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp. jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp 2.2 Repeated queries to lame servers [...] It should also be noted, however, that some authoritative name server behave as lame servers only for queries of some specific types [x]. In this case, it makes sense to retry the "lame" servers for other types of queries, particularly when all known authoritative name servers seem to be "lame". [x] draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-02.txt 2.2.1 Recommendation Iterative resolvers SHOULD cache name servers that they discover are not authoritative for zones delegated to them (i.e. lame servers). Lame servers MUST be cached against the specific query tuple <zone name, class, server IP address>. Zone name can be derived from the owner name of the NS record that was referenced to query the name server that was discovered to be lame. Implementations that perform lame server caching MUST refrain from sending queries to known lame servers based on a time interval from when the server is discovered to be lame as long as the implementations know non-lame servers. A minimum interval of thirty minutes is RECOMMENDED. However, it still makes sense to keep trying the lame server when all servers are seem to be lame as a last resort, in order to workaround the type-specific lame servers described in the previous section. . dnsop resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop/index.html
- [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-03.t… Rob Austein
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Rob Austein
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Andras Salamon
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Rob Austein
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Jakob Schlyter
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Jaap Akkerhuis
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Peter Koch
- [dnsop] Re: WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Kevin Darcy
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Peter Koch
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Olaf M. Kolkman
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… Ted Lindgreen
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… David Meyer
- Re: [dnsop] WGLC on draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉