Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt
Paul Vixie <vixie@fsi.io> Sat, 25 August 2018 17:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt
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On Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:53:01 PM UTC Ted Lemon wrote: > I'm not saying nobody does it. I'm trying to understand how this helps. in my own experience, nothing which needs a hostname (so, having an AAAA and PTR RR) doesn't have a static address. if an address is handed out by SLAAC or by DHCP, it initiates connections but does not respond to any. i realize that there are other modes of being, but that's mine. furthermore i go to some length to de-automate PTR creation by ISP's. there are lists of auto-generated PTR base domains (d.c.b.a.in-addr.arpa pointing to host-a-b-c-d.isp.net) that i wish to treat as nonexistent for the purpose of choosing whether to receive high value connections (like to my SMTP server). it would be better for me if these automated PTR's did not work. no web server will ever reject PTR-less connections, so, outbound connections will mostly still work, just not for my SMTP server. i realize that there are other modes of being, but that's mine. i have no objection to having other DHCP servers (not the ones i run) registering PTR's for its assignments. that's why i wrote DEFUPD in 1996. i just don't expect to use DEFUPD in my own servers. that's why DEFUPD solves a more general problem (asynchronous DNS updates in general, not just expiry.) that URL again for those historians who missed it: http://family.redbarn.org/~vixie/defupd.txt -- Vixie
- [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-p… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pu… Tom Pusateri