Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis
Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Tue, 12 October 2021 11:48 UTC
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From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: > > As a seperate problem in the 2nd references email, I agree that the > term "in-bailiwick" probably changed meaning from "within this > delegation or below" to "the data related to this delegation". I view the term "in-bailiwick" as no longer suitable for use in careful writing because its meaning has become thorougly confused and muddled. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> https://dotat.at/ Dover, Wight: Northwest 3 or 4 veering north or northeast 4 to 6, becoming variable 3 or less later. Smooth or slight, occasionally moderate at first in north Dover. Showers. Good.
- [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-dnsop… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-d… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-d… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-d… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-d… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-d… Tony Finch
- [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the baili… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Bailiwick discussion for draft-ietf-d… Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Wessels, Duane
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Wessels, Duane
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Wessels, Duane
- Re: [DNSOP] Another attempt at consensus on the b… Paul Vixie