Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Thu, 20 November 2014 18:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback
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Jacques,

On Nov 20, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Jacques Latour <jacques.latour@cira.ca> wrote:
> I think the one big drawback for me is the loss visibility and control for the root operators.

Lack of comprehensive statistics would indeed be an issue (I'm not going to comment on the "control" bit of your assertion), however...

> As an example, DITL, what value will that have if only subset of queries make it to root servers?

The current DITL data is a subset of queries.  

> Will DNS-OARC have to collect logs from all these loopback authoritative slave recursive?  

All? No. However, I suspect if DNS-OARC asked, they might be able to get a sufficient number of operators to volunteer their data to provide a statistically valid sample.

> -1 for adoption.

Is that the only reason you don't think the draft should be adopted?

You are aware that some large resolver operators already do what is documented in root-loopback, right?

Regards,
-drc