Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 17 August 2017 15:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
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In article <CAKXHy=chbyfempMDtk-tJMkzDL3oeOdJdyujxuK2-qH4E5Hp_w@mail.gmail.com> you write: >2. I know I don't have enough expertise in this area to make an informed >decision, and smart folks on this thread and elsewhere have told me that an >insecure delegation would be better than status-quo. I added >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-west-let-localhost-be-localhost-05#section-4.2 >to the document on that basis. The problem with asking for an insecure root delegation is that the IETF has no process for putting anything in the root. In principle we could work something out with ICANN, but that process would take somewhere between a very very long time and forever. It is likely to be hijacked by other people who also want special treatment for their pet TLDs which is why my estimate would be closer to forever. So my inclination would be to say that localhost lookups that reach the root will get a secure NXDOMAIN, which one could take as a hint that it's time to update the stubs and caches that let the query leak. We don't have to work this out now, we can adopt the document and figure out what to fix later. R's, John PS: For anyone who was going to say what about .ARPA, it was in the root a long time before ICANN existed.
- [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"? Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Fwd: Status of "let localhost be localhos… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Erik Nygren
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John R Levine