Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid
Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> Tue, 28 March 2017 16:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid
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On 27/03/2017 17:49, Dave Lawrence wrote: > As Sara commented on Ray's draft that proposes a very similar option, > draft-bellis-dnsop-xpf, this sort of thing clearly needs a close look > at privacy, and I whole-heartedly agree. I've already been directly > poking privacy-concerned individuals for feedback. > > Speaking of Ray's draft, our proposal is able to handle his use case > but unfortunately our use cases are not achievable in his. I'd > welcome joining up. Let's see how it goes first :) I'm somewhat philosophically opposed to anything that injects client related information such that it's shared between different parties. A large point of my draft is that it's *not* designed to be used that way (but I accept Sara's point that the text around this could be stronger). It's only intended for use within a single network, to allow _already known_ client related information that would otherwise be obscured by an L3 proxy to be carried through to the end server. Ray
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- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Barry Raveendran Greene
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid tjw ietf
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-tale-dnsop-edns-clientid Peter van Dijk