Re: [dnssd] DNSSD at 118?

At least 1:30?

Op ma 18 sep 2023 om 14:00 schreef David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>

> Great, thanks. For the official WG session, we have the option of
> requesting 1 hour, 1h30, or 2h. Any opinions?
> David
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:03 AM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, David. Sounds good. FWIW, in addition to the IESG work I owe you,
>> I just had a brainstorm (in lieu of sleep, I'm afraid) about how to fix
>> TSR. So I'm going to publish an update to TSR that I think will finally
>> make it work the way it should have in the first place, and will want the
>> WG to think about whether I'm right. It might be worth discussing this in
>> Prague.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 1:22 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Esko and Ted,
>>>
>>> What you're suggesting is definitely not crazy. In my experience, I've
>>> found that meetings to edit documents work best with a smaller group (in
>>> the case of DNSSD I'd say the editors and implementers) while official
>>> working group meetings have a bigger audience and are most useful to get
>>> the output of the smaller group shared with the wider group to see if
>>> anyone has thoughts, ideas or concerns. Sales pitches are also useful there
>>> to get new folks involved in upcoming work. In an ideal world, we can have
>>> both in Prague where we first have a smaller side meeting earlier in the
>>> week and then have the official WG meeting later in the week. The smaller
>>> side meeting would be open to anyone interested but with a goal of
>>> participation more than observation. The chairs could help coordinate that
>>> if the group thinks this is a good plan. In particular, let us know if
>>> anyone is interested in joining the side meeting remotely because
>>> organizing VC for those is generally doable but isn't always easy. And for
>>> folks planning to attend in-person and interested in the side meeting, let
>>> us know what day you're planning on flying in/out to help scheduling.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 6:51 AM Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for the do-actual-work proposal.  Side meetings are common at IETF
>>>> so we can have those.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > and I certainly don't object to sales pitches and status reports if
>>>> people have those as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think giving an intro as to what the open issues or missing parts are
>>>> of a solution is still useful.  Because not everyone is up to date.  It’s
>>>> more of an anti-sales-pitch then ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* dnssd <dnssd-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Ted Lemon
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2023 15:41
>>>> *To:* David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc:* DNSSD <dnssd@ietf.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [dnssd] DNSSD at 118?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think there's a tendency at IETF meetings to present status and sales
>>>> pitches, and maybe have some brief—possibly well-informed, possibly
>>>> not—discussion. I do not know of a specific thing that needs a status
>>>> update at the upcoming IETF, although that could change between now and
>>>> November. However, one thing that I wish there were more of at IETFs is
>>>> actual work being done, as opposed to status updates and sales pitches. I'm
>>>> planning to show up in Prague, as I suspect others are, and I would like to
>>>> do some work. I think it would be useful to have an AV setup and a time
>>>> slot for that. So if I were to propose agenda items, they would be, perhaps:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Discussion and document editing on TSR
>>>>
>>>> - Discussion and document editing on SRP Replication
>>>>
>>>> - Discussion and document editing on Advertising Proxy et al.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be good to have this early in the week, and then do further
>>>> collaboration later in the week. I say this because I think a lot of people
>>>> wind up effectively taking the week off from work to go to IETF or to
>>>> participate in IETF, and so this is a really good opportunity for some
>>>> heads-down dedicated work. I guess if we get scheduled on Friday, we could
>>>> schedule some meetings in non-WG meeting rooms to prepare for the Friday
>>>> session, and that could make the session effective as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That said, I am open to the chairs telling me I am crazy, and I
>>>> certainly don't object to sales pitches and status reports if people have
>>>> those as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 7:05 PM David Schinazi <
>>>> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The chairs have until next Friday to put in a request to have DNSSD
>>>> meet at IETF 118 in Prague. Do you think we should meet? If yes, please
>>>> send us agenda items - either on the list or directly to the chairs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
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