Re: [dnssd] DNSSD at 118?

Great, thanks. For the official WG session, we have the option of
requesting 1 hour, 1h30, or 2h. Any opinions?
David

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:03 AM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> Thanks, David. Sounds good. FWIW, in addition to the IESG work I owe you,
> I just had a brainstorm (in lieu of sleep, I'm afraid) about how to fix
> TSR. So I'm going to publish an update to TSR that I think will finally
> make it work the way it should have in the first place, and will want the
> WG to think about whether I'm right. It might be worth discussing this in
> Prague.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 1:22 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Esko and Ted,
>>
>> What you're suggesting is definitely not crazy. In my experience, I've
>> found that meetings to edit documents work best with a smaller group (in
>> the case of DNSSD I'd say the editors and implementers) while official
>> working group meetings have a bigger audience and are most useful to get
>> the output of the smaller group shared with the wider group to see if
>> anyone has thoughts, ideas or concerns. Sales pitches are also useful there
>> to get new folks involved in upcoming work. In an ideal world, we can have
>> both in Prague where we first have a smaller side meeting earlier in the
>> week and then have the official WG meeting later in the week. The smaller
>> side meeting would be open to anyone interested but with a goal of
>> participation more than observation. The chairs could help coordinate that
>> if the group thinks this is a good plan. In particular, let us know if
>> anyone is interested in joining the side meeting remotely because
>> organizing VC for those is generally doable but isn't always easy. And for
>> folks planning to attend in-person and interested in the side meeting, let
>> us know what day you're planning on flying in/out to help scheduling.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 6:51 AM Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for the do-actual-work proposal.  Side meetings are common at IETF so
>>> we can have those.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > and I certainly don't object to sales pitches and status reports if
>>> people have those as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think giving an intro as to what the open issues or missing parts are
>>> of a solution is still useful.  Because not everyone is up to date.  It’s
>>> more of an anti-sales-pitch then ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* dnssd <dnssd-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Ted Lemon
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2023 15:41
>>> *To:* David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* DNSSD <dnssd@ietf.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [dnssd] DNSSD at 118?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think there's a tendency at IETF meetings to present status and sales
>>> pitches, and maybe have some brief—possibly well-informed, possibly
>>> not—discussion. I do not know of a specific thing that needs a status
>>> update at the upcoming IETF, although that could change between now and
>>> November. However, one thing that I wish there were more of at IETFs is
>>> actual work being done, as opposed to status updates and sales pitches. I'm
>>> planning to show up in Prague, as I suspect others are, and I would like to
>>> do some work. I think it would be useful to have an AV setup and a time
>>> slot for that. So if I were to propose agenda items, they would be, perhaps:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Discussion and document editing on TSR
>>>
>>> - Discussion and document editing on SRP Replication
>>>
>>> - Discussion and document editing on Advertising Proxy et al.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be good to have this early in the week, and then do further
>>> collaboration later in the week. I say this because I think a lot of people
>>> wind up effectively taking the week off from work to go to IETF or to
>>> participate in IETF, and so this is a really good opportunity for some
>>> heads-down dedicated work. I guess if we get scheduled on Friday, we could
>>> schedule some meetings in non-WG meeting rooms to prepare for the Friday
>>> session, and that could make the session effective as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, I am open to the chairs telling me I am crazy, and I
>>> certainly don't object to sales pitches and status reports if people have
>>> those as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 7:05 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The chairs have until next Friday to put in a request to have DNSSD meet
>>> at IETF 118 in Prague. Do you think we should meet? If yes, please send us
>>> agenda items - either on the list or directly to the chairs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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