Re: [dnssd] DNSSD at 118?

I won't be in Prague but I am Ok with a side meeting if 1) there is audio
for listening and 2) a chat channel.  I don't need to hear myself speak
(and y'all don't need to hear me speak), but composing comments in a chat
channel is very useful.

In exchange, I will agree to do some work

tim

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 1:22 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Esko and Ted,
>
> What you're suggesting is definitely not crazy. In my experience, I've
> found that meetings to edit documents work best with a smaller group (in
> the case of DNSSD I'd say the editors and implementers) while official
> working group meetings have a bigger audience and are most useful to get
> the output of the smaller group shared with the wider group to see if
> anyone has thoughts, ideas or concerns. Sales pitches are also useful there
> to get new folks involved in upcoming work. In an ideal world, we can have
> both in Prague where we first have a smaller side meeting earlier in the
> week and then have the official WG meeting later in the week. The smaller
> side meeting would be open to anyone interested but with a goal of
> participation more than observation. The chairs could help coordinate that
> if the group thinks this is a good plan. In particular, let us know if
> anyone is interested in joining the side meeting remotely because
> organizing VC for those is generally doable but isn't always easy. And for
> folks planning to attend in-person and interested in the side meeting, let
> us know what day you're planning on flying in/out to help scheduling.
>
> David
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 6:51 AM Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for the do-actual-work proposal.  Side meetings are common at IETF so
>> we can have those.
>>
>>
>>
>> > and I certainly don't object to sales pitches and status reports if
>> people have those as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think giving an intro as to what the open issues or missing parts are
>> of a solution is still useful.  Because not everyone is up to date.  It’s
>> more of an anti-sales-pitch then ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* dnssd <dnssd-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Ted Lemon
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2023 15:41
>> *To:* David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* DNSSD <dnssd@ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [dnssd] DNSSD at 118?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think there's a tendency at IETF meetings to present status and sales
>> pitches, and maybe have some brief—possibly well-informed, possibly
>> not—discussion. I do not know of a specific thing that needs a status
>> update at the upcoming IETF, although that could change between now and
>> November. However, one thing that I wish there were more of at IETFs is
>> actual work being done, as opposed to status updates and sales pitches. I'm
>> planning to show up in Prague, as I suspect others are, and I would like to
>> do some work. I think it would be useful to have an AV setup and a time
>> slot for that. So if I were to propose agenda items, they would be, perhaps:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Discussion and document editing on TSR
>>
>> - Discussion and document editing on SRP Replication
>>
>> - Discussion and document editing on Advertising Proxy et al.
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be good to have this early in the week, and then do further
>> collaboration later in the week. I say this because I think a lot of people
>> wind up effectively taking the week off from work to go to IETF or to
>> participate in IETF, and so this is a really good opportunity for some
>> heads-down dedicated work. I guess if we get scheduled on Friday, we could
>> schedule some meetings in non-WG meeting rooms to prepare for the Friday
>> session, and that could make the session effective as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, I am open to the chairs telling me I am crazy, and I certainly
>> don't object to sales pitches and status reports if people have those as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 7:05 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,
>>
>>
>>
>> The chairs have until next Friday to put in a request to have DNSSD meet
>> at IETF 118 in Prague. Do you think we should meet? If yes, please send us
>> agenda items - either on the list or directly to the chairs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
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