Re: [Doh] On shutting down work on draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 31 August 2019 21:55 UTC

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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 17:55:39 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Doh] On shutting down work on draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh
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I totally agree Warren.   As a working group chair, I have been conditioned
to see the world through the data tracker (not saying it's a good thing).



On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 5:47 PM Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> IMO, that’s good, but it’s only clear to people who view this through the
> datatracker - I still think it would be good to also put in. A (short)
> tombstone saying what happened, and why.
>
> W
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 5:45 PM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The chairs can either mark the old draft "Parked" Or "Dead" in the data
>> tracked and add a comment with a link to the current draft.
>>
>> I actually did the Datatracker stuff to mark
>> draft-sah-resolver-information as
>> "Replaces".  draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh
>>
>> hope that doesn't upset the authors.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 5:38 PM Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave Lawrence <tale@dd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul Hoffman writes:
>>>> > Given that, I'd like the WG to drop consideration of
>>>> > draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh. I could do a final draft of
>>>> > draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh that is a tombstone so that
>>>> > people in the future know that we consciously killed it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> It looks like this never got a response.  Personally (no hats) I'd
>>>> like that proposed final documenting of consciously dropping it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 (and sorry for not responding earlier).
>>>
>>> It seems much better to document that this was intentional and not that
>>> e.g people just got sidetracked, etc.
>>>
>>> W
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea
>>> in the first place.
>>> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>>> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
>>> pants.
>>>    ---maf
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>> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea
> in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
> pants.
>    ---maf
>