Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing
Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com> Thu, 23 April 2015 21:40 UTC
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From: Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing
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Dear Paulo, On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Paulo Mendes <paulo.mendes@ulusofona.pt> wrote: > Dear Nabil > > For me it makes no sense to talk about static routing when we are talking > about networks that should be able exploit any forwarding opportunistic to > overcome the problem of facing intermittent Internet connectivity. If > you’re talking about Delay-tolerant Networks as in transmissions over long > delay links, it makes no sense to talk about routing at all, since the > problem is more a reliable transport problem. > Not sure of the point! Many routing protocols in DTN are known and used (see http://www.netlab.tkk.fi/tutkimus/dtn/theone/) > On the other hand if you are talking about Disruptive-tolerant Networks, > then you need dynamic routing to overcome the intermittent connectivity, > implementing a store-carry-forward algorithm. > In DTN, the store-carry-forward paradigm is also used. > > What chairs are you referring to? It should be from the new DTNWG and not > from DTNRG. > Exact! It was during DTNwg session in Dallas. > To the best of my knowledge there were presented at least two routing > proposals to DTNRG. One is Prophet, which is now RFC6693, and the other is > dLife (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moreira-dlife/ ). dLife > last version is the fourth one. In the meantime, due to lack of feedback, > we didn’t releases version 5 in the DTNRG. Currently dLife is being > exploited in the European project UMOBILE (http://www.umobile-project.eu). > May I ask whether dLife is implemented in any network simulator ? > > Paulo > > On 22 Apr 2015, at 15:18, Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Thank you for your insights and comments! > In fact, I have suggested during the DTN session in Dallas why not to work > on Dynamic routing instead of static routing. I got an answer from the > chairs that we don't know which routing protocols could be considered !! > And this is the reason that pushed John and I to volunteer for static with > the intention to provide a document (short or detailed ) on the aspect ! > > We do static routing in some cases even if Dynamic routing is available. > It's the case when one wants a stable path (through a firewall) for the > packets. > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0) < > william.d.ivancic@nasa.gov> wrote: > >> In line. >> >> On 4/22/15 8:37 AM, "Greg Troxel" <gdt@ir.bbn.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >"Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0)" <william.d.ivancic@nasa.gov> writes: >> > >> >> My understanding is Static mean hard wired. You know what, where and >> >>when >> >> - similar to IP static routing where you know what and where. No >> >>protocol >> >> is involved. It is simply configuration. You propagate the forwarding >> >> table. >> >> >> >> If I recall correctly, static routes usually get preference over >> dynamic >> >> routes. >> > >> >That makes sense. I wonder then what it means to work on it >> >> Me too. >> >> >- to fix up >> >the reference implementation so that it has equivalents to "netstat -r", >> >"route add", etc.? Or to write a document giving guidance to people >> >deciding which static routes to add? Or ? >> >> >> I guess one thing would be to state whether or not the "when" is required. >> >> >> A second is to state whether "Static" or "Dynamic" has precedence. >> Actually, I prefer dynamic if it is available. If you are doing Static >> routing, it is because you do not have Dynamic routing. Static tends to >> get you in trouble. We may think we know all, but we usually don't. >> >> I think this should be a very short document. Maybe it could actually be >> incorporated into 5050bis or some other document that states default >> assumptions. >> >> Will >> >> > > > -- > > > Best Regards > > > > *nabilbenamar.ipv6-lab.net <http://nabilbenamar.ipv6-lab.net/>* > > > > _______________________________________________ > dtn-interest mailing list > dtn-interest@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-interest > > > Melhores Cumprimentos/Best Regards/Mit Freundlichen Gruessen > Paulo Mendes > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Paulo Mendes, Ph.D > Vice-director of the Research Unit in Cognition and People > Centric Computing (COPELABS) > Director of the Ph.D program on Informatics - New Media and > Pervasive Systems (NEMPS) > Associated Professor at University Lusofona, Portugal > > http://copelabs.ulusofona.pt/~pmendes > Tel.: +351 217 50 50 22 > > -- Best Regards نبيل بنعمرو *nabilbenamar.ipv6-lab.net <http://nabilbenamar.ipv6-lab.net/>*
- [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Nabil Benamar
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Greg Troxel
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Greg Troxel
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Nabil Benamar
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Iannicca, Dennis C. (GRC-LCA0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing John Dowdell
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Paulo Mendes
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Nabil Benamar
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Sebastian Schildt
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing waldir moreira
- Re: [dtn-interest] DTN static routing Nabil Benamar
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Nabil Benamar
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Juan A. Fraire
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Amy Alford
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Greg Troxel
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Greg Troxel
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Greg Troxel
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Greg Troxel
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing l.wood
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Scott, Keith L.
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Torgerson, Jordan L (332M)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Torgerson, Jordan L (332M)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Sebastian Schildt
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing William Immerman
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Vint Cerf
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Sebastian Schildt
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing l.wood
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Scott, Keith L.
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Sebastian Schildt
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Sebastian Schildt
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Carlo Caini
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Sebastian Schildt
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Burleigh, Scott C (312B)
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing l.wood
- Re: [dtn-interest] [dtn] DTN static routing Scott, Keith L.