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Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss

Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Wed, 12 July 2017 18:50 UTC

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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:50:13 -0400
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Gunnar,

I found another case that's a bad idea, but reality: Australia uses 106 for
TTY (not SMS, no fax) calls. I'll still group it as sos.message, but it
shows the range of legacy solutions.

However, there do seem to be other options that are probably more
attractive, even if not completely integrated ("ask for 000"):

http://relayservice.gov.au/making-a-call/emergency-calls/

Henning

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Gunnar Hellström <
gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> wrote:

> Henning,
>
> Yes, I agree that for the limited application you describe, when a country
> has a separate number for SMS and/or fax, and handle these calls in a
> separate PSAP, then they likely currently act as relays when the emergency
> case is for coastguard or any of the other subservices.
>
> Under such circumstances sos.message would do.
>
> It is just sad that it is not just one number for all emergencies because
> people cannot learn more than one and remember it in an emergency
> situation. But that is another story.
>
> Gunnar
>
>

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