Re: [forces] Avoiding need to issue a draft every time WAS(Re: FEO events
Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@mojatatu.com> Thu, 20 November 2014 15:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [forces] Avoiding need to issue a draft every time WAS(Re: FEO events
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: > I think that there are several issues combined here. > > We already have mechanisms so that anyone can define LFBs. And that > includes new subclasses of existing LFBs. Note that he information as to > what LFB classes and subclasses an FE supports is easily discoverable, >by design. > That part works well. Lets put FEPO/FEO to the side for the sake of discussion. Say i defined a port LFB and I publish it and it ends up being RFC. And then two months down the road i would like to add a new component - the process requires me to publish a new document and go through the same publication. That is manageable if the churn stops at some point. It never stops in open source. So the idea that i have to create a document and go through a standards process doesnt scale. > There is the question of whether event mechanism should be more easily > extended than a new subclass. I have trouble seeing how we could > do that, > since in many instances it will require different code in the FE to generate > new events. > I think the sub-classing issue also works well. What i am refering to is more class "augmentation" than it is sub-classing. > Then there is the question of changes to the FEO (or FEPO). For > itneroperability, those have to be very stable. In this case, for example, > if your CE needs those events, you can only work with FEs that have been > upgraded to generate those events from the FEO. If we allow random changes > to the FEO, the probability of interoperability between independent > implementations is very low. So while I am sympathetic, I am reluctant to > go down a path the makes interoperability harder. > We can make an exception for FEPO/FEO. But think of other classes which merely require a new component augmented (not subclassing). cheers, jamal
- [forces] Avoiding need to issue a draft every tim… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [forces] Avoiding need to issue a draft every… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [forces] Avoiding need to issue a draft every… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [forces] Avoiding need to issue a draft every… Jamal Hadi Salim
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