Re: [gaia] The European Broadband Award 2015 goes to the guifi.net community network

Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig@guifi.net> Wed, 18 November 2015 19:11 UTC

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From: Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig@guifi.net>
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Subject: Re: [gaia] The European Broadband Award 2015 goes to the guifi.net community network
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Hi David,

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On 11/17/2015 08:31 PM, David Johnson wrote:
> Thanks Roger for the nudge
> 
> Africa is a tough environment and we continue to fight on. There 
> are some projects that are showing successes even in this tough 
> environment like the VillageTelco project in Mankosi (thanks to the
> initiative of Steve song and co.) . Wireless User Groups (WUGs)
> community built WiFi networks are also fairly popular in many
> cities in South Africa. We also used some of our early mesh work to
> connect 200 rural schools and empower small rural village operators
> to expand connectivity from these anchor clients - but its hard to
> keep this sustainable when there is little economic activity in the
> area.

I can imagine (I had the opportunity to visit Namibia last year).

> 
> We keep exploring and iterating through different models - hoping 
> more open access fibre expanding across the country is also going 
> to help things. TV white space (our current focus) is also going
> to open up opportunities to reach low density rural populations
> for less.

I agree. What works in South-West Europe might not work in other
regions due to socio-economic reasons among others. Nonetheless I
think it is worth that the practitioners still fight to keep the
principles alive (non-speculative access, openness, etc.), not only
for good humanitarian reasons but because I'm totally convinced that
they lead to most efficient usage of the resources (no duplication,
everybody contributing to the same resource, etc.). microISPs and the
rest of the local entrepreneurs must understand that collaboration
turns into better profits for them than fierce competition (for
example, the only option they have to face big telcos competition is
through collaboration).

Kind regards.

> 
> Regards David
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Roger Baig Viñas 
> <roger.baig@guifi.net> wrote: David,
> 
> As we have witnessed in guifi.net, sometimes some 
> initiatives/projects need some iterations. So please, do not give 
> up. Give it another try, maybe this is the one!
> 
> And one recommendation. Reuse as much as possible of what's out 
> there to be able to focus your efforts in facing the 
> particularities of your case.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> On 11/17/2015 03:32 PM, David Johnson wrote:
>>>> Well done to all - I feel like you got right what we were 
>>>> trying to do in Wireless Africa back in 2006 
>>>> (http://wirelessafrica.meraka.org.za) - after some 
>>>> inspiration from Frefunk at the time but never quite got 
>>>> there
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jim Forster 
>>>> <jrforster@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> Kudos indeed!  A wonderful success story.  I confess to not
>>>>> really understanding the dynamics of planning, conflict
>>>>> resolutions, sharing & compensation, etc., but I wish I
>>>>> did!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Steve Song 
>>>>> <stevesong@nsrc.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for sharing this Leandro.  Kudos to all involved in
>>>>>  Guifi.net.  So well deserved!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers... Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 November 2015 at 18:25, Leandro Navarro 
>>>>> <leandro@ac.upc.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This evening we had the award ceremony in Brussels where 
>>>>>> the guifi.net community network got the European 
>>>>>> Broadband Award from the European Commission for its 
>>>>>> “innovative model of financing, business and investment”
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/five-projects-got-fir
st-
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
ever-european-broadband-award
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
> The video about guifi.net: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3HYeD4Lm4
>>>>>> A paper that describes its socio-economic and governance
>>>>>>  model: 
>>>>>> http://people.ac.upc.edu/leandro/pubs/crowds-guifi-en.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
If you come to the next GAIA workshop (London, Nov 30,
>>>>>> colocated with the ACM-DEV conference) you’ll be able to
>>>>>>  participate in a world-cafe style discussion on 
>>>>>> socio-economic or business/sustainability models of 
>>>>>> infrastructures and services for GAIA. Guifi.net, among 
>>>>>> other initiatives, will be there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope to see some of you in our next GAIA workshop, -- 
>>>>>> Leandro Navarro http://people.ac.upc.edu/leandro 
>>>>>> http://dsg.ac.upc.edu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________ gaia 
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>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- +1 902 529 0046 stevesong@nsrc.org http://nsrc.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________ gaia 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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> 
> 

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Roger Baig Viñas
Fundació Privada per a la Xarxa Oberta, Lliure i Neutral guifi.net

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