Re: [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Networks draft
Francesco Amorosa <amorosa@afasystems.it> Mon, 25 April 2016 10:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Networks draft
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Dear all, the word *governance* seems really relevant in "alternative" networks context. It expresses the will and the ambition of a territory (a small or wide area with its population) and marks a substantial difference between the Alternative Networks and the others, whose governance (and strategy, evolution plans, coverage extensions, ...) are determined elsewhere, often exclusively on the basis of the market short-term perspectives. I believe we need to introduce the concept of *governance*. Best, Francesco --- Il 25/04/2016 02:42, panayotis antoniadis ha scritto: > > Dear Jose, all > > Here is the first part of my proposal for the improvement of the draft, > up to the end of Section 4 (classification criteria), trying to minimize > the suggested changes. > > I will send the second part a little later depending on how the first > part > will be received :-) > > >> Abstract > >> This document presents a taxonomy of a set of "Alternative Network >> Deployments" emerged in the last decade with the aim of bringing >> Internet connectivity to people. > > "or of providing a local communication infrastructure to serve various > complementary needs and objectives" > > [If the draft would include alternative networks with other objectives > than > providing Internet access this should be reflected in the abstract.] > >> topologies different from those of mainstream networks, and rely on >> alternative business models. > I would say "alternative business *and governance* models" > > >> 1. Introduction > >> This term >> includes a set of network access models that have emerged in the last >> decade with the aim of providing Internet connection, following >> topological, architectural and business models that differ from the >> so-called "mainstream" ones, > again, I would add "governance" models > >> >> o Users in mainstream networks do not participate in the network >> design, deployment, operation and maintenance. > > same here: add "governance" > > >> >> 2. Terms used in this document >> >> This document follows a multidisciplinary approach, considering the >> multidisciplinary nature of the Internet and the problems being >> addressed. Therefore, some concepts used in fields and disciplines >> different from networking are being used. > > I would replace the above with the following [I don't think that it > "follows a multidisciplinary approach" since there are not other > disciplines really represented in the whole approach other than > the clarification of the terminology]: > > "Considering the central role that the Internet plays today in almost > every aspect of our lives, this document touches on complex social, > political, and economic issues. Some of the concepts and terminology > used have been the subject of study of various disciplines outside the > field of networking, and responsible for long debates whose resolution > is out of the scope of this document. " > >> >> >> 4.1. Commercial model / promoter > The "commercial model" does not sound like a classification variable > and the list below is not a list of "commercial models" but different > actors involved. The term "promoter" is also very vague. I would > call this category simply "actors involved" > >> >> The entity (or entities) or individuals promoting an Alternative >> Network can be: >> >> o A community of users. >> >> o A public stakeholder. >> >> o A private company. >> >> o Supporters of a crowdshared approach. >> >> o A community that already owns some infrastructure shares it with >> an operator, which uses it for backhauling purposes. >> >> o A research or academic entity. >> >> The commercial model may have different implications regarding the >> ownership of the network equipment. In some cases, each of the users >> of the community maintains the ownership over the equipment they have >> contributed, whereas in others there is an entity who owns the >> equipment, or at least a part of it. > > I would replace the above with the following: > > "The above actors could play different roles in the design, financing, > deployment, > governance, and promotion of an alternative network. For example, > each of the members of a community network maintains the ownership > over the > equipment they have contributed, whereas in others there is a single > entity, > e.g., a private company who owns the equipment, or at least a part of > it." > > >> >> 4.2. Goals and motivation > I propose to change this classification criteria to "Benefits" >> >> Alternative Networks can also be classified according to the >> underlying motivation for them, e.g., addressing deployment and usage >> hurdles: > And change the above as follows: > > Alternative Networks can be classified according to the benefits that > they > bring compared to mainstream solutions, regarding economic, > technological, > social or political objectives. These benefits could be enjoyed mostly by > the actors involved (e.g., lowering costs or gaining technical > expertise) or > by the society as a whole (e.g., Internet access in underserved areas or > network neutrality). > > >> >> o Free sharing of Internet connectivity, including altruistic >> reasons. > I would delete "including altruistic reasons". "Free sharing" sounds > altruistic enough :-) > > And add also: > > "Community building, social cohesion, quality of life" (example: > Redhook Wifi) > > > BUT I still find this section a little confusing. I am not sure though > how to simplify > it without "losing information". If I was the editor I would include > in the classification > only the "stated goals" of different networks as presented in their > web sites and leave > second-order goals and motivations for a "discussion"-like section. > They are > very important but not really appropriate as classification criteria > in my opinion. > > However, this needs some extra work and personally I don't have the > time to do this > right now. I could try though if you think it would be useful. > > Best, > > Panayotis. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gaia mailing list > gaia@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia > -- --------------------------------- AFA Systems Srl Via G.Pastore Zona Industriale B 86039 Termoli (CB) - Italia tel.: +39 0875 724104 ext. 221 fax.: +39 0875 726084 www.afasystems.it ---------------------------------
- [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Network… Jose Saldana
- Re: [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Net… panayotis antoniadis
- Re: [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Net… Francesco Amorosa
- Re: [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Net… Jose Saldana
- Re: [gaia] Current version of the Alternative Net… Jose Saldana