Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-rlfa-node-protection-09
Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 29 December 2016 08:19 UTC
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From: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-rlfa-node-protection-09
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Hi Meral, First, many many thanks to you for the detailed review comments. :) Next, please find few replies inline. Rest of the comments has been accepted as is, and will be addressed soon. Thanks -Pushpasis On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Meral Shirazipour < meral.shirazipour@ericsson.com> wrote: > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review > Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for > the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call > comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at < > http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. > > > > > > Document: draft-ietf-rtgwg-rlfa-node-protection-09 > > Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour > > Review Date: 2016-12-28 > > IETF LC End Date: 2017-01-04 (extension 2017-01-11) > > IESG Telechat date: 2017-01-05 (extended) > > > > > > Summary: > > This draft is ready to be published as Standards Track RFC but I have > comments. > > > > Major issues: > > Minor issues: > > Nits/editorial comments: > > > > -Please spell out Loop-Free Alternate (LFA), Shortest Path First (SPF) at > first use. > > > > -typo in draft header: > > "Internet-Draft R-LFA Node-Protection and Manageabilty December 2016" > > "Manageabilty"--should be-->"Manageability" > > > > -Same typo in Section 3 header: "Manageabilty of Remote-LFA Alternate > Paths" > > "Manageabilty"--should be-->"Manageability" > > > > -[Page 6] Section 2.2.3. > > "on any of the shortest path", path -->"paths" > > > > -[Page 6] Section 2.2.3. > > "from the node Y to primary nexthop E": > > "one ECMP path from the node Y": > > -->the example in this draft did not use the letter Y for any nodes. Would > it be clearer to say node Y is defined in Section 2.2.4? > > > > -Few occurences of "w.r.t to ", the "to" is redundant. > > > > -[Page 1], "can be utilised "--->"can be utilized" > > > > -[Page 9], Section 2.3 > > "Sections Section 2.3.1 and Section 2.3.2 shows "--->"Section 2.3.1 and > Section 2.3.2 show" > > > > -[Page 11], "To determine wether"--->"To determine whether" > > > > -[Page 11], "primary nexthop node"-->"primary nexthop nodes" > > > > -[Page 13], "choose only the ones that does"--->"choose only the ones that > do" > > > > -[Page 13], "not gaurantee"--->"not guarantee" > > > > -[Page 14], "Figure 7: Toplogy with multiple ECMP primary > nexthops"--->"Figure 7: Topology with multiple ECMP primary nexthops" > > > > -[Page 14], "node-proecting"--->"node-protecting" > > > > -[Page 15], "paths tp PQ-node R2"--->"paths to PQ-node R2" > > > > -[Page 16], "gaurantees node-protection"--->"guarantees node-protection" > > > > -[Page 17], "above example above"--->"above example" > > > > -[Page 17], "also allow user"--->"also allow the user" > > > > -[Page 18], "the the computing"---->"the computing" > > > > -[Page 18], "in section Section 2.3.2."---->"in Section 2.3.2." (2 > occurrences) > > > > -[Page 18], "in section Section 2.3 the"---->"in Section 2.3 the" > > > > -[Page 18], "i.e from "---->"i.e. from " > > > > -[Page 18], "two Remote-LFA alternate path"--->"two Remote-LFA alternate > paths" > > > > -[Page 19], "the approach proposed"----->"the proposed approach " > > > > -[Page 19], "is needed keep "---->"is needed to keep" > > > > -[Page 19], "entire toplogy"---->"entire topology" > > > > -General: Is there any proof or extensive simulation that has proved that > the mechanism proposed works for various network topologies and not only > the one shown in the examples? > > > [Pushpasis] These mechanisms has been implemented (by atleast one vendor, to my knowledge) and has been extensively tested in few of the operator's network. As is the case with L-FA (RFC 5286) and R-LFA(RFC 7490) specifications, these mechanisms either provide you with a backup alternate, or does not. But if a backup is verified using these mechanism, it is 100% guaranteed to be loop-free. As you might be already be aware of, R-LFA is more suited towards ring-like network topologies. None of these mechanisms always provide 100% backup coverage (i.e. they do not always let you discover all the possible/feasible backup paths). But depending on actual topologies, they can provide coverage somewhere between 100%-86%. You may want to refer to RFC 7490 section 9. Please let me know if you need any further information on this. Thanks -Pushpasis > > > > Best Regards, > > Meral > > --- > > Meral Shirazipour > > Ericsson Research > > www.ericsson.com >
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-… Meral Shirazipour
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Meral Shirazipour
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Meral Shirazipour