Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-loreto-http-bidirectional-05.txt

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

Peter,

Thanks for the background. Indeed, a sentence or two about this being
a temporary approach, as you suggest, would be very helpful.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 2010-12-23 07:47, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 12/3/10 8:44 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
>> This is real example of protocol abuse. HTTP wasn't designed for
>> this and doesn't do this properly.
> 
> Which is why folks who are currently using long-polling techniques are
> actively contributing to the HYBI WG.
> 
>> The draft is non-judgmental,
>> and that might be a mistake.
> 
> The draft is Informational and therefore isn't really in a position to pass
> judgments. All it is trying to say is: we know that long-polling techniques
> have many issues, but if you're going to use these techniques then at least
> try to do so with some modicum of intelligence. We're making the best of a
> bad situation, and if the HYBI WG is successful then hopefully people won't
> feel the need for long-polling techniques in the future.
> 
>> Personally, if I was in the IESG,
>> I'd be considering a "holding my nose" ABSTAIN ballot
> 
> I'll be balloting RECUSE.
> 
>> unless some 
>> text stating that the methods described are really bad ideas
>> was added.
> 
> I'd have no problem with adding a sentence or two to the effect that
> long-polling is a temporary hack that emerged from the applications
> community and will hopefully be superseded by technologies that aren't so
> abusive of HTTP. I'll confer with my co-authors about wordsmithing, if they
> agree that it's a good idea to add such text.
> 
> Peter
> 
>