[Gendispatch] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrel-how-much-ad-work-00.txt

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Mon, 15 January 2024 17:42 UTC

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Hiya,

Martin said...

"I sympathise with the desire and need some might have to continue the
discussions, yet continuing them on this list, depending on how they evolve,
could be a stretch. [...] Proponents are welcome to update gendispatch on
progress made, if need be."

This is by way of an update on progress made. There is no specific venue for
discussion, but you can email Rich and me direct.

Rich and I have posted a draft to collect the information reported by ADs
about their workloads. Make of it what you will. We don't expect this I-D to
be more than that collation, and don't seek publication as an RFC. If ADs
supply more information, that would be welcomed and folded into a future
version.

Cheers,
Adrian and Rich

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Subject: I-D Action: draft-farrel-how-much-ad-work-00.txt

Internet-Draft draft-farrel-how-much-ad-work-00.txt is now available.

   Title:   How is the Area Director Workload Made Up?
   Authors: Adrian Farrel
            Rich Salz
   Name:    draft-farrel-how-much-ad-work-00.txt
   Pages:   13
   Dates:   2024-01-15

Abstract:

   Anecdotally, every IESG complains about the Area Director (AD)
   workload, and says that it takes the first full term to understand
   the job.  Empirically, the AD workload is high sometimes causing
   backlogs in processing of Internet-Drafts and stressing the ADs.

   After some discussions in the GENDISPATCH working group and arising
   from an Internet-Draft postulating changes that might reduce the AD
   workload, several ADs reported some data on how they spent their time
   in a few weeks chosen at random.  This document collates that data
   and presents it for information.

   This document does not attempt to draw any conclusions from the
   limited data currently available, and there is no intention to
   publish this document as an RFC.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrel-how-much-ad-work/

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