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From: "Blachut2, Marek (DSIT)" <Marek.Blachut2@dsit.gov.uk>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, "gendispatch@ietf.org" <gendispatch@ietf.org>
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On 12/01/2024, 22:02, "Gendispatch" wrote:

> Note, I am not at all against welcoming policy people to participate in the IETF. Just don't suggest that our technical choices haven't had societal impact since forever.


Hi - It wasn't our intention to suggest that technical choices haven't previously had societal impacts, and elsewhere in the document we (try to) recognise the context and history around this issue.

The point around increasing significance could be reframed as a wider point about increasing interactions that recognises a range of contributing factors, with a big part of this, as you say, being due to increased awareness in policy communities.

But I don't think that's the only piece that contributes to this (still) being a relevant issue today. Other factors are also important to where we are now as compared to IETF 1 – including the growth of the Internet and the extent of our reliance on it, the IETF operating in a more crowded ecosystem of global initiatives and governance processes that relate to the Internet, as well as standards potentially interacting with a larger volume of applicable national regulations.

The key point we're trying to make is that there is still more to do to address the challenges that are holding back constructive participation from the range of expertise relevant to the decisions being made here. I don't think that recognising that the problem has existed in some form for a long time really changes this.

Best,
Marek

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