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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 12 January 2024 04:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders-03.txt
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Hi,

I have one question and a comment.

> Increasingly, the decisions	
> we take when developing Internet standards are also policy decisions	
> with trade-offs and implications that are inherently social rather	
> than purely technical.

My question is: What is the evidence that this is *increasingly* true?
In my opinion, IETF decisions have had policy and societal impact since
IETF 1 in 1986. Most of the Internet's impact on society was the result
of decisions taken before, say, 1995.

My comment is that I'd like to see a discussion added on the possible
detrimental effects of increased participation of "policy stakeholders"
in IETF technical discussions.

Regards
     Brian

On 11-Jan-24 04:40, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> Internet-Draft draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders-03.txt is now
> available.
> 
>     Title:   Policy experts are IETF stakeholders
>     Authors: Stacie Hoffmann
>              Marek Blachut
>     Name:    draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders-03.txt
>     Pages:   11
>     Dates:   2024-01-10
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>     The IETF's work has significance for communities concerned with
>     societal, economic, and political outcomes, though barriers to
>     engagement with the IETF exist for non-technical experts from these
>     communities.  This informational document introduces a problem
>     statement and gap analysis of existing initiatives related to policy
>     expert engagement in the IETF.  It aims to be a resource for anyone
>     interested in working to enable policy expert engagement in IETF
>     standardisation.
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders/
> 
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders-03.html
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders-03
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
> 
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