Re: [GROW] Adrian Farrel's Discuss on draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations-05: (with DISCUSS)

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Subject: Re: [GROW] Adrian Farrel's Discuss on draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations-05: (with DISCUSS)
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On 3/2/15 6:40 AM, McPherson, Danny wrote:
> 
> These are some pretty significant changes that themselves could be an
> internet-draft/document, methinks.  Perhaps those so interested in C.I.A
> in their comments could contribute some text, this was meant to be more
> operational.
> 
> I hope Eric has the cycles to resolve these [non-trivial comments] and if
> they did get resolved it¹d surely need to return to WG LC (IMO) ‹ and I¹d
> presuppose someone would find an opportunity to request a review from
> SIDR, although part of the intent was expressly to avoid beating that
> horse.

so, my assumption is a that discussing them isn't going always require
change, some of them probably will.

> I¹ll defer to Eric if he¹s going to be able to address these, but I can
> pretty much guarantee it won¹t see the RFC editor until well after Dallas
> (if ever, now).

If we can't resolve it under adrian, that's fine more or less becasue
the reviewer becomes the new AD but I probably get to rerun the IESG
evaluation, so for all our sakes I think that is expedient to clear the
discuss under the current regime but I am flexible.

> Alas, 
> 
> 
> -danny
> 
> 
> On 3/2/15, 1:51 AM, "joel jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
> 
>> hello,
>>
>> would like to chase this one down and resolve it.
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/grow/current/msg03015.html
>>
>> but haven't seen to much activity.
>>
>> lets do this thing and maybe we can publish this one before the upcoming
>> meeting.
>>
>> joel
>>
>> On 2/9/15 9:08 PM, joel jaeggli wrote:
>>> I'm under no illusion that terry's dicussion will have changed by the
>>> time he's installed.
>>>
>>> I would rather have it done sooner in any event.
>>>
>>> we did not get a change out prior ti the jan discussion and it stalled
>>> after that sorry.
>>>
>>> On 2/9/15 1:06 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Any progress on this?
>>>>
>>>> Just in case you were holding out the hope that my Discuss will expire
>>>> when I leave the IESG, I have to point out that my Discuss was to make
>>>> sure that the RTG Dir review by Terry Manderson gets attention. And
>>>> Terry will show up on the IESG when I leave :-)
>>>>
>>>> Shame to see a document sitting when it is so close to being done.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: iesg [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
>>>>> Sent: 18 December 2014 15:33
>>>>> To: The IESG
>>>>> Cc: christopher.morrow@gmail.com; grow-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
>>>>> grow@ietf.org;
>>>>> draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations.all@tools.ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: Adrian Farrel's Discuss on
>>>>> draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-
>>>>> considerations-05: (with DISCUSS)
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian Farrel has entered the following ballot position for
>>>>> draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations-05: Discuss
>>>>>
>>>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>>>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut
>>>>> this
>>>>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please refer to
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>>>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-cons
>>>>> iderations/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> DISCUSS:
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to see some discussion of the points raised by Terry
>>>>> Manderson
>>>>> in his Routing Directorate review during the IETF last call period
>>>>> (circulated on the Grow list at
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/grow/current/msg03015.html).
>>>>>
>>>>> By preference this discussion should be between the authors, WG, and
>>>>> reviewer. But I'd be happy to step in and own the discussions if that
>>>>> will help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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