Re: [homenet] Unicast DNS within the Homenet?

Don Sturek <d.sturek@att.net> Mon, 10 September 2012 14:17 UTC

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:17:04 -0700
From: Don Sturek <d.sturek@att.net>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Ray Bellis <Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk>
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Thread-Topic: [homenet] Unicast DNS within the Homenet?
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Unicast DNS within the Homenet?
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Bonjour is based on mDNS
(http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns/) and
DNS-SD (http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-dnsext-dns-sd/),
both currently in the RFC editors queue.....

Don

On 9/10/12 6:53 AM, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 10/09/2012 14:09, Ray Bellis wrote:
>> On 10 Sep 2012, at 13:58, Brian E Carpenter
>><brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Using literal addresses is evil for many reasons - surely we don't
>>>need to
>>> discuss that ancient question again?
>> 
>> I wasn't promoting it, just noting that this is the current position,
>>with Bonjour et al becoming the "preferred" way.  The latter is "a good
>>thing".
>
>afaik Bonjour is a proprietary protocol. How can that be a good thing?
>
>>> The right question is whether DNS is the appropriate solution for
>>>converting
>>> local devices names to addresses, or whether there is some other
>>>naming service that
>>> should be the standard. Since DNS is the IETF standard for converting
>>>names
>>> to addresses, there would need to be a pretty strong case for anything
>>>else.
>> 
>> The IETF has _other_ protocols for naming services (mDNS, LLMNR) that
>>are designed for local networks, albeit with the "wrong" multicast scope
>>as far as we're concerned.
>
>And SLP, explicitly designed for locating services.
>
>> My question is therefore more about whether (internal) unicast DNS is
>>actually required at all.
>
>And I'm saying that's the wrong question.
>
>I think the right question is whether there is an *open* standard for
>discovering
>service addresses from service names that is more suitable than DNS.
>
>    Brian
>
>
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