Re: [homenet] AD review of draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-16

[Daniel Migault <[e-mail]>]

Just posted the 19 - usually I have one line per sentence... but not in
that case ;-)

I suspect we did not address all your concerns for
the draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation but we are waiting for
your feedbacks to see what else needs to be addressed. Thank you for the
follow up!

Yours,
Daniel

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 9:30 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Merci Daniel,
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> By looking at the diff -17-18, you have addressed all my concerns 😊
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> It would be ready for IETF Last Call, but you were too energetic when
> removing the last sentence of section 6.2, you have actually removed the
> whole paragraph 😲 and the IANA registry must have a registration policy.
> So, we need to keep
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> "Future code points are assigned under RFC Required as per [RFC8126]."
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> Regards
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> -éric-waiting-for-19 ;-)
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> Also waiting for the revision of
> draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-17 as my plan is to group
> the two I-D for the last call
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> *From: *Daniel Migault <[e-mail]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 15:05
> *To: *Eric Vyncke <[e-mail]>
> *Cc: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "
> [e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Stephen Farrell
> <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> *Subject: *Re: [homenet] AD review of
> draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-16
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> Hi,
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> I just submitted version 18. All comments have been addressed except
> moving the appendices to a companion document. I would be a bit hesitant to
> start a full process of adoption, last call while this can be shipped in an
> appendix.  If that is not the case and there is a strong incentive toward
> having a companion document we can easily publish such a document.
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> Yours,
>
> Daniel
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> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:17 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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> Daniel, Ralf, Tomek,
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> Thank you for posting the -17 revision.
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> Before requesting the IETF Last Call, I kindly request one small changes
> in -17 in the IANA section + a couple of minor suggestions that can be
> ignored, see below for EV>
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> Stephen, as the doc shepherd, would you mind explaining why "PS" is the
> right intended status?
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> We can aim to request the Last Call still this week if this I-D and the
> architecture revised I-Ds are quickly posted.
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> Regards
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> -éric
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> *From: *homenet <[e-mail]> on behalf of Daniel Migault <
> [e-mail]>
> *Date: *Friday, 12 August 2022 at 02:04
> *To: *"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=[e-mail]>
> *Cc: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> *Subject: *Re: [homenet] AD review of
> draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-16
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> Hi Eric,
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> Thank you for the review. Please find inline how we addressed your
> comments.
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> You can also find the change on github on the link below:
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> https://github.com/ietf-homenet-wg/front-end-naming-delegation-dhc-options/pull/1/commits/088c8f783279a4506f55345b6dcc99b9f1555662
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> I will also send the IANA section for additional review to the IANA.
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> Yours,
> Daniel
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> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:44 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
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> As usual, I do my own review before requesting the IETF Last Call for all
> documents. The intent is to give another polishing pass on the I-D.
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> For this review, the MD format is used.
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> Hope this helps
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> Regards
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> -éric
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> # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for
> draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-16
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> CC @evyncke
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> Thank you for the work put into this document.
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> Please find below some blocking DISCUSS points, some non-blocking COMMENT
> points (but replies would be appreciated even if only for my own education).
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> Special thanks to Stephen Farrel for the shepherd's detailed write-up
> including the WG consensus, *but* it lacks the justification of the
> intended status (and the WGLC was extended to the DHC WG).
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> I hope that this review helps to improve the document,
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> Regards,
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> -éric
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> ## DISCUSS
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> ### Section 4.2 port ?
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> The DHCP option does not allow to run DoT over a non-standard port. Or if
> another transport is defined without an associated default port, then there
> is no way to specify a port.
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> That is correct, the rationale was to minimize the number of arguments and
> reduce the complexity of handling the DHCP Option. If we would consider
> adding ports, these should be added to every supported transport. This
> would move the Supported Transport field being a list of ( transport, port
> ). While not technically infeasible, that seemed to introduce too much
> complexity with regard to using a dedicated IP address for the DM.
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> If the DM really needs to use another port  one may think of storing such
> information in the DNS.
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> EV> it would have been nice to have some text explaining this reasoning.
> Up to the authors to decide whether it is worth adding it.
>
> ### Section 6 registry
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> s/IANA is requested to maintain a new number space/IANA is requested to
> create a new registry/
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> done
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> Also follow RFC 8126 section 1.3 (and others) by notably adding a
> description, the parent grouping (DHC I guess)
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>  The sub section has been updated as follows:
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> ## Supported Transport parameter
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> IANA is requested to maintain a new registry of Supported Transport
> parameter in the Distributed Manager Option (OPTION_DIST_MANAGER) or the
> Reverse Distribution Manager Option (OPTION_REVERSE_DIST_MANAGER). The
> different parameters are defined in {{tab-st}} in {{sec-st}}.
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> The Name of the registry is: Supported Transport parameter
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> The registry description is:  The Supported Transport field of the DHCPv6
> option is a tow byte field that indicates the supported transport protocols.
> Each bit represents a specific transport mechanism.
>
> The parent grouping is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv6
> (DHCPv6) at
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/dhcpv6-parameters/dhcpv6-parameters.xhtml#dhcpv6-parameters-2
> .
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> New entry MUST specify the bit position, the Transport Protocol
> Description a Mnemonic and a Reference as defined in {{tab-iana}}.
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> The initial registry is as specified in {{tab-iana}}.
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> Changes of the  format or policies of the registry is left to the IETF via
> the IESG.
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> Future code points are assigned under Specification Required as per
> {{!RFC8126}}. The expert is expected to be familiar with DHCP.
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> EV> -17 has 'RFC required' (which is better -- see my previous point), but
> there is no expert for RFC/Spec required policies. So, remove the last
> sentence :)
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> ~~~
> Bit Position | Transport Protocol Description |  Mnemonic | Reference
> -------------+--------------------------------+-----------+-----------
>       0      | DNS over TLS                   | DoT       | This-RFC
>      1-15    | unallocated                    |  -        |  -
> ~~~
> {:#tab-iana title="Supported Transport" }
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> ## COMMENTS
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> ### Shepherd's review, intended status
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> Stephen, as noted above, please include some justification for the
> intended PS status.
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> ### Section 4.2 option name
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> By consistency with section 4.3, should this be
> OPTION_FORWARD_DIST_MANAGER ?
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> The rational was to have forward as default, but we can change that to
> remain fair with the reverse dm. Let us know your thoughts.
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> EV> slight preference for including FORWARD, but up to you really
>
> ### Appendix, why here ?
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> There is little DHCP-related content in the appendix and the scenario
> would probably be more useful in the companion document.
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> The purpose of the appendix was to show that these DHCP option cannot be
> used by an ISP to prevent users from using their own registered domain
> names. I do not think that better fits the companion document which
> describes the architecture and protocols to outsource the DNS zone. These
> appendixes are focused on what can be done when the ISP provides an
> outsourcing service.
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> EV> I am still no convinced though ;-), but this is up to the authors
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> --
>
> Daniel Migault
>
> Ericsson
>


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