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Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-09: (with DISCUSS)

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 19 November 2015 04:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-09: (with DISCUSS)
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Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 6:49 PM Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
> It's not a simple matter of sending a few mailing list messages -- it's
> a long-term effort that consists of writing portable, open source,
> lightweight implementations (hnetd, shncpd), of deploying HNCP ourselves
> (Paris network, Henning's network somewhere in Germany), of getting HNCP
> implementations into Linux and Unix distributions (OpenWRT by Steven,
> Debian/Ubuntu soon, I'm not telling), of speaking to people at community
> meetings (Battlemesh, IETF, CCC, FOSDEM), in short, making HNCP familiar
> and easily available.

Sure, that's fair enough.

> (And as we're trying to communicate our message in a clear and accurate
> manner, how helpful it is to be able to say that a feature is "mandatory
> to implement, optional to use, but you're not allowed to #ifdef it away".)

Just to clarify, mandatory to implement doesn't mean you have to write the code.   It means the functionality has to be present in the deployed implementation so that two communicating partners can be configured to use it.   Mandatory to use means that the functionality has to be used at all times.


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