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Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-04.txt

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Tue, 17 September 2019 15:53 UTC

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:53:01 +0200
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-04.txt
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Hi Paul,

> On 17 Sep 2019, at 17:45, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
> I would love to have this document as a reference for document authors
> to think about their specific IETF work impacts the global internet, and
> via the internet, society. That is, this document would be a great
> starting point for a document author to consider if their document needs
> a Human Rights Consideration section. Writing such a section has as goal
> to confirm (or perhaps improve) the protocol described causes no
> unintentional harm to society.


I think it would help the rest of us if you could explain what actions you would or would not have taken on any document you have written, based on what you read in this document.  By the way, if you could do that, it would be a very good example for Niels to include.

It would also help address a key concern of mine, which is that Niels could then more clearly express the import of the work.

This is not the only issue to be addressed, but it’s a big one.

Eliot

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