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Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-05.txt

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 23 September 2019 12:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-05.txt
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On Sep 23, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> wrote:
> The idea of this draft is to clear the way for such research to happen, without having to re-discuss the base premisse of such research. But now we seem caught in a kind of catch 22. 

IOW, the purpose of this document is to establish a set of givens from which subsequent reasoning can be done.  But we don’t agree on the givens.  So it can’t possibly do that.  It’s possible that it can do something else that is useful, but it certainly can’t do that particular thing.

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