Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution paragraph
farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> Thu, 11 March 2021 18:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution paragraph
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Thank you Gurshabad, Yes this is fine, though I would have removed "may.. be" from the following sentence and replace it with "is". attribution on an individual level [may] *is not [*be] consistent with those particular human rights. and would have removed individual from "i.e. mechanisms in protocols or architectures that are designed to make communications or artifacts attributable to a certain computer* or individual)*" I can't think of a text that captures Mallory's suggestion right now but I am not insistent on further changes to be applied. So don't want to hold you back. All good and thank you for your hard and excellent work. An annoying P.S.: just for the record I hope this paragraph does not encourage protocol developers to design protocols that can attribute certain action to an individual or lead to identification of people. I hope it doesn't legitimize attribution using protocols, with no accountability or checks and balances. Attribution features can be abused. I still don't think attribution should have been included at all, but that ship has sailed. So, I compromise. Farzaneh On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 1:00 PM Gurshabad Grover <gurshabad@cis-india.org> wrote: > Thanks, Farzaneh. > > I was referring to these suggestions (which came through well to my mail > at least), which I mostly incorporated. I realised from your chat > messages during hrpc today that you were highlighting the importance of > removing the reference to 'law enforcement agencies'. Taking that and > the recent suggestions into account, would this text be fine? > > """ > Question(s): Can your protocol facilitate a negatively impacted party's > right to the appropriate remedy without disproportionately impacting > other parties' human rights, especially their right to privacy? > > Explanation: Attribution (i.e. mechanisms in protocols or architectures > that are designed to make communications or artifacts attributable to a > certain computer or individual) may help victims of crimes in seeking > appropriate remedy. However, attribution mechanisms may impede the > exercise of the right to privacy. The Special Rapporteur for Freedom of > Expression has also argued that anonymity is an inherent part of freedom > of expression. [Kaye] Considering the adverse impact of attribution on > the right to privacy and freedom of expression, enabling attribution on > an individual level may not be consistent with those particular human > rights. > """ > > On a finer point: I do not think that it is appropriate to remove 'the > right to remedy' from the 'Impacts' section, because it is precisely > what this section about (regardless of the final position it takes). > > -Gurshabad > > > On 3/11/21 11:19 PM, farzaneh badii wrote: > > Seems like the suggestion I made did not come through because I > > strike-through > > Screen Shot 2021-03-11 at 12.44.34 PM.png > > that didn't appear on the mailing list archive so I took a screenshot > > of the changes I suggested which is attached. > > > > I will rewrite it here. > > Farzaneh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hrpc mailing list > > hrpc@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc > > >
- [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution paragraph farzaneh badii
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Gurshabad Grover
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… farzaneh badii
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Mark Perkins
- [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution paragraph farzaneh badii
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Eliot Lear
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… John Curran
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… farzaneh badii
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Mark Perkins
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… farzaneh badii
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Mark Perkins
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… John Curran
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… John Curran
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Mark Perkins
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [hrpc] My suggestion for the attribution para… John Curran