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Re: [httpapi] linkset draft ready for next steps

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Thu, 08 July 2021 15:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [httpapi] linkset draft ready for next steps
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Am 08.07.2021 um 16:35 schrieb Phil Archer:
> Can I clarify your comment please Julian.
>
> Are you suggesting that Linkset could drop support for multilingual titles on a given link? And does that apply to both the native HTTP Link header format and the JSON format, or just one? Such a move would remove complexity that may be little used. For better or worse, it seems that in the real world, a vanishingly small number of websites use content negotiation by language. The new W3C website design is not using it, for example, and is instead going for a {domain}/{lang}/{page} structure. So, yes, having a single link to a resource that is made available with language-based conneg is probably an edge case hanging on by its fingernails.
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> Even so, it is part of HTTP and so leaving it out might be problematic, process-wise if nothing else? Apologies if I've misunderstood your comment.

For now I was just considering the JSON format due to the complexity it
adds.

I can understand if feature parity has higher priority than terseness,
but wanted at least see some discussion.

Best regards, Julian

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