Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant?
Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> Fri, 04 September 2020 09:14 UTC
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:13:20 +0200
From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>
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Subject: Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant?
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On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 11:08:24AM +0200, Daniel Stenberg wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > > > - server then gives Content-Length: in response > > > > They're lucky because it could perfectly just deliver the data and close! > > Yes absolutely. And it somewhat puzzling to a client-oriented mind like mine > that there are servers that opt to go chunked even though they apparently > have the size ... Maybe they actually go the hard way and buffer everything just to count... I've already seen such horrors a long time ago. Willy
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- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Eric J Bowman
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- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Daniel Stenberg
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Willy Tarreau
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Daniel Stenberg
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Willy Tarreau
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