Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-httpbis-header-structure-18

Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Wed, 06 May 2020 07:04 UTC

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In message <78C9039F-F687-41A1-A85D-CC8B3B82211B@mnot.net>, Mark Nottingham writes:
>On 6 May 2020, at 6:29 am, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
>>=20
>> In class B people deal with huge numbers by downscaling:  Millions,
>> Trillions, GigaBytes and PetaBytes.  Nobody really cares if the
>> stimulus was 1.000.000.000.000 or 1.000.000.000.010 dollars, so
>> sawing of the right hand side is a good way to make numbers =
>manageable,
>> at the cost of suffixing multiplier: $125M
>
>This makes me wonder whether we should add an example to stimulate =
>readers' imagination in this direction; e.g.,
>
>Example-ScaledInt: 4503;suffix=3DM

Would that work without an explanation ?

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