Re: Issue with "bytes" Range Unit and live streaming

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Thu, 12 May 2016 01:45 UTC

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Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:40:28 +1000
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
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Subject: Re: Issue with "bytes" Range Unit and live streaming
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On 12 May 2016 at 10:59, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> 1. Changing the 'bytes' range-unit to allow this use case
> 2. Minting a new range-unit

I suggested a third option: work around the limitation.  Was there a
reason that isn't feasible?  (There are probably many, but I saw none
offered.)