IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [hybi] Payload only compression extension, again

John Tamplin <jat@google.com> Thu, 28 April 2011 02:04 UTC

Return-Path: <jat@google.com>
X-Original-To: hybi@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: hybi@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C852E0770 for <hybi@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -104.398
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.578, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E2M-crUrNHqH for <hybi@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.44.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF257E066F for <hybi@ietf.org>; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from hpaq2.eem.corp.google.com (hpaq2.eem.corp.google.com [172.25.149.2]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id p3S23wgm010299 for <hybi@ietf.org>; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:58 -0700
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1303956239; bh=x2Qc47enCNI1k0v+RL6salKv7ew=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=CGCWfN6gBwxAU4ubw9kNRris8ZA/uC+sTEQDV3ToP2PTezF+hDaJfQerAeRVJyoru Ek0OVVW3JU/minRWzh06w==
Received: from yie16 (yie16.prod.google.com [10.243.66.16]) by hpaq2.eem.corp.google.com with ESMTP id p3S23uT2006379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for <hybi@ietf.org>; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:57 -0700
Received: by yie16 with SMTP id 16so1148191yie.16 for <hybi@ietf.org>; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=JHTW7V17oDTDHxq5FBe37RC/sWAloRpEcHJzVziEW5U=; b=wZXRshyB08s3a23ZE0Nctdp4d2yRFHVmrlJBcPyDCKJWAtFl/TYWa5K2wRQQq47Sxq bdQA+8zZUy1n3BdFljhA==
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=IS+CKtRKoktDwymhZSZsIi6us/1cYiwgPXN42REDhR8gl5gEjEP1DRAtaN9/NWJNrP 4yqDdX7c2U54WGyCp0Tw==
Received: by 10.151.112.11 with SMTP id p11mr2536181ybm.59.1303956236124; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.150.199.16 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:03:36 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikHXtVM+7nfz60toKTJCXBuMwMC1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik2LqCC2-ZLLdWNNaQ18ypcQU_5djJobkYtYk6T@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTik+uh98b0n7U=xrE0Aaa7MyBfZVXSwj+8wfVTKW@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTinCtDepu+wDt4=8GyXqhfn=SQ7v2SjJhKzP2Mzr@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTinhw0j5U_tvfCCrcEx=J6b7wBua4XzhWkvthUjL@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTi=SjQwGQu-3v2wjniyp9DrQ1ZcQdA@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTi=dqFN-57GV3rYDv4feTAaZFQko1g@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTikWFwfs0FOuET5ZS1HEzjweNO0_CA@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTikHXtVM+7nfz60toKTJCXBuMwMC1g@mail.gmail.com>
From: John Tamplin <jat@google.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:03:36 -0400
Message-ID: <BANLkTinsMu+Znbg7Fe7+9HZeZg=Q8SwDHg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Greg Wilkins <gregw@intalio.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00151757462e41c25a04a1f0f8cb"
X-System-Of-Record: true
Cc: hybi@ietf.org, Brodie Thiesfield <brodie@jellycan.com>
Subject: Re: [hybi] Payload only compression extension, again
X-BeenThere: hybi@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Server-Initiated HTTP <hybi.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/hybi>, <mailto:hybi-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi>
List-Post: <mailto:hybi@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:hybi-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hybi>, <mailto:hybi-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:04:00 -0000

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Greg Wilkins <gregw@intalio.com> wrote:

> On 28 April 2011 11:22, John Tamplin <jat@google.com> wrote:
> > My gut feeling is at this point, it is better to get the base spec
> released,
> > experiment with compression options in private-use extensions, and then
> have
> > a formal proposal for a real compression extension once we get that
> > experience.
>
> Can we apply that logic to deflate-stream?
>
> It should be punted to a private-use extension until the many
> identified problems with it are solved.
>

It was added as a better-than-nothing example of an extension, but as we
have added masking since then I would not be opposed to removing it.

-- 
John A. Tamplin
Software Engineer (GWT), Google

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email