Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg

Gabriel Montenegro <Gabriel.Montenegro@microsoft.com> Fri, 20 January 2012 19:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg
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Yes, the assumption is that multiplexing will use John’s draft as a starting point, and the compression will use Takeshi’s draft as a starting point. I agree that the compression extension is better understood and more contained, which is why it is targeted as finishing earlier, although some parallel work might be ok as one tapers off. We can always modify dates and estimates later on, but this is just a first stab.

I agree that the mux extension is more complex and invite discussion as to how the WG sees it and whether the currently proposed milestones are within the ballpark (it’s ok for them to be somewhat optimistic, as were our original charter’s milestones).

From: hybi-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hybi-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Tamplin
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Subject: Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Jesse McConnell <jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com<mailto:jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is it safe to assume that the starting place for the mux extension
will be John's google-mux draft?  If so, would it make sense to start
off the extensions discussions there, or does it make more sense to
work on some 'official' simple extensions before tackling that more
complex one?  I am a bit torn on where it would be best to start.  I
would like to see the mux 'official' as soon as possible but I am
unclear if individual extensions could have much of an effect on the
mux extension or vis versa.

Just curious as he has some nice work done there which could be a nice
starting point.

If someone has an alternate proposal, that is fine, but in the absence of that I suggest http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tamplin-hybi-google-mux-01 is as good a place to start as any.

I suspect per-frame compression will be easier to get agreement on, and so could be completed more quickly.  There is a pressing need for both, but shortest-job-first scheduling gets something useful deployed faster.

--
John A. Tamplin
Software Engineer (GWT), Google

[hybi] New charter for HyBi wg Salvatore Loreto
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg John Tamplin
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg Alexey Melnikov
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg Jesse McConnell
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg John Tamplin
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg Gabriel Montenegro
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg Takeshi Yoshino
Re: [hybi] New charter for HyBi wg Peter Saint-Andre