Re: [i2rs] WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-05.txt extended and draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-network-topo-06.txt (

Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> Tue, 27 September 2016 23:44 UTC

Return-Path: <giles.heron@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: i2rs@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: i2rs@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FE812B350 for <i2rs@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.699
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tvSXzXOsDRi6 for <i2rs@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:44:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7113712B2DD for <i2rs@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id b130so40921338wmc.0 for <i2rs@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=poPESesAJEoO9r1lh+c63hdFvXFz4vbT1E5EndiQD1k=; b=ewMPBiKD+xYrf9gxA+o8Yi1k/nBV8VUIjsce62X4LGfOpLr7yD+WUxHyoMvx44QnYP lXZS9umJ3HfBSNyylBK05TSblNIdxswyd5VIaWF/06fBjTOO6jJ3QeW0iBWURW/LgLd0 ZK7XbOVpavMzybLE93ESC2PC4DHeSaH+2BF5nopUUuVLYOiHp9MgNiiqoOLCgAT6742V G63Dtg3VnRbZvG4ijFlQa0p0RGAXt7wvIraMPCYQSdPEnRKy+X5m5l7CorExnb1pfHVt FNtWk//zjeLm9qircwKd+p5NIUsVsa9YCTF/KhE8C2UfUffi38GUskIlennLNOpo5uqZ mPXg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=poPESesAJEoO9r1lh+c63hdFvXFz4vbT1E5EndiQD1k=; b=F5BYQc6bva4oABgIRw+UQ6CKJvBu9W/+J4D5buWtRZyqtFxpZYJNM5th/pJ9WAKON7 kDUY/1nww6ucMUhdfJrG5FjUJ4Ss+mRDcZsuHzkjT6+o0Ov0MYNNKuAVfSLa/75fUwuo ddTnWHEINYYcGdNLj9MYOuR1Z67znUXHULwpW523ov6rA4BcVu9Vhr30Rtrbnp2+3uDj 1phLo7MYoyivqNhC4y0/Z+ZUU3/r4U6PVXhMxuLIwRbfX3r3t/xD98HXfMp+vgKXNJ3D jUJyur5CYFMZOqWiaRE/fVsEy2SjD0muodc0YsdJ9y9ne7Dmwxr/gZ5Ba9KSE9y6LLeh SiKQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RlG8AuL/0JBIvbIfJDzcWQLYWWF+QC0XDIr3G+JhFbrSL2tQPpD2cLSWf7FikJZ2g==
X-Received: by 10.28.100.214 with SMTP id y205mr5317841wmb.72.1475019845893; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ?IPv6:2001:420:c0c0:1008::17b? ([2001:420:c0c0:1008::17b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 188sm19232532wmo.1.2016.09.27.16.44.02 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7D5F706F-B2D8-4ABC-A659-F37248910854"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\))
From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <b31dd1f31ef941ea980a8a037af6cce4@XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:43:59 -0700
Message-Id: <29A73AF5-2C91-4A42-A499-3A36E69F25F7@gmail.com>
References: <20c001d21348$831721b0$89456510$@ndzh.com> <b31dd1f31ef941ea980a8a037af6cce4@XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com>
To: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/i2rs/_TV1HzDGnksajd9laLra7AywxN0>
Cc: "Benoit Claise \(bclaise\)" <bclaise@cisco.com>, "i2rs@ietf.org" <i2rs@ietf.org>, Russ White <russ@riw.us>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [i2rs] WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-05.txt extended and draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-network-topo-06.txt (
X-BeenThere: i2rs@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Interface to The Internet Routing System \(IRS\)" <i2rs.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/i2rs>, <mailto:i2rs-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/i2rs/>
List-Post: <mailto:i2rs@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:i2rs-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2rs>, <mailto:i2rs-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:44:10 -0000

Agreed.

the base network and topology models are absolutely fundamental and need to be progressed.   The draft has been through a bunch of iterations, and there’s plenty of implementation experience.   The separation of the topology into the separate network and topology models is a good step, as we’ve found in e.g. OpenDaylight that many “topologies” are really more like inventory (so you have lists of nodes, but no links).

The L3 topology is probably the key augment of the base models and again has been through a bunch of iterations, and again we’ve had plenty of implementation experience.  So again we should progress it.

Giles

> On 23 Sep 2016, at 08:37, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Drafts look good.
>  
> From: i2rs [mailto:i2rs-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:i2rs-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:09 AM
> To: i2rs@ietf.org <mailto:i2rs@ietf.org>
> Cc: Benoit Claise (bclaise) <bclaise@cisco.com <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>>; 'Russ White' <russ@riw.us <mailto:russ@riw.us>>; 'Alia Atlas' <akatlas@gmail.com <mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>
> Subject: [i2rs] WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-05.txt extended and draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-network-topo-06.txt (
>  
> This begins a 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-04.txt (9/20 to 10/4) and draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-network-topo-06.txt from 9/20 to 10/3.  
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo/>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology/>
> In considering this draft, the I2RS WG should consider:
> 1)     Does the implementations of this draft in ODL open source code base sufficient experience on the Yang drafts?
> 
> 2)     Does anyone know of other implementations of this model?
> 
> 3)      Do you believe this Yang model is stable enough to publish and distribute to yang libraries?
> 
>  We did a WG LC in August, but we suspect this got caught in the August vacation email. 
> Sue Hares and Russ White
> Co-chairs
>  
> _______________________________________________
> i2rs mailing list
> i2rs@ietf.org <mailto:i2rs@ietf.org>
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2rs <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2rs>