Re: [Ianaplan] it's more than that

["Sweeting, John" <[e-mail]>]

On 5/4/15, 10:35 AM, "Milton L Mueller" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/01/icann_iana_latest/
>>
>> Is any of this substantiated? I'd like to see the original ICANN note
>>and who
>> has sent it.
>
>Wouldn't we all?
>
>The problem is substantiated by the members of the CRISP team who made
>the presentation. Here is a link to that presentation:
>https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_35/PDF/monday/crisp
>_panel.pdf

Milton, it was well pointed out that Bill¹s presentation was NOT the view
of the CRISP team. The issues that Bill presented were never discussed by
the CRISP team nor endorsed by the CRISP team.

>
>
>Unless you believe that Bill Woodcock was making it all up, and that
>other CRISP team members present and ARIN's in house counsel stood by and
>let him publicly fantasize without challenge, I think there is enough
>substantiation here to warrant queries and concerns.

No one believes that Bill made anything up but he would need to provide
the sources of his information, again none of this was ever discussed by
the CRISP team.

>
>
>You ask for a documented note, but the problem is precisely that someone
>within ICANN seems to be pressuring the RIRs to alter their transition
>proposal and this negotiation process is not transparent or open.
>
>> Who has made this decision? The ICANN Board? ICANN the organisation?
>>ICANN the community?
>
>Definitely not the latter. Probably not the board either, given numerous
>statements we have from them indicating they had no problem with the
>CRISP proposal. The CRISP presentation specifically identifies "ICANN
>legal"
>
>> Let's not forget it's the
>> ICANN Community that is firmly in charge of the NTIA Stewardship
>>Transition
>> process and as a member of the Cross Community Working Group, I have
>> seen no discussion leading to this allegation.
>
>This issue has been aired and extensively discussed on the CCWG list.
>
>--MM
>
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