Re: [Id-event] subject-identifers WG interest (Was: Closing the SecEvent working group)

Yaron and I have discussed keeping the WG going to work on the
subject-identifiers draft. We were both disappointed in the previous
feedback from the WG in the two WGLCs we had for the document.

With more people chiming in at this time, we have decided to check if there
is renewed WG interest in subject-identifiers. To gauge the interest, we
would like to see substantive feedback on the latest draft[1] from numerous
people in the next two weeks. The cutoff will be July 20, 18:00 PDT. If we
do not see substantial feedback, we will close the WG and assist Annabelle
in publishing with the ISE.

Dick and Yaron

 [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers-05

Note this draft has expired, but still suits our purpose of
gauging interest.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:07 AM Atul Tulshibagwale <atultulshi=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I would also like this work to be completed. We're working on subject-type
> changes in the SSE spec, so those can be incorporated into this spec.
>
> I'm happy to do this work within the SecEvents group.
>
> Thanks,
> Atul
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:47 AM Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry folks. We decided that this draft does not have WG support back in
>> August, because it clearly did not have such support. Yes there are
>> obviously people who want to see it published as an RFC. But not enough for
>> any meaningful discussion during the WG last call (or even a positive
>> response before the WGLC expired, we had exactly one). Nor any discussion
>> since then. Nor a new draft version published since late July 2019.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me remind the group that the IETF offers two alternatives for
>> publication, either AD-sponsored or through the ISE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>                 Yaron
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Bjorn Hjelm <bjorn.hjelm@verizonwireless.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, July 3, 2020 at 05:29
>> *To: *"Richard Backman, Annabelle" <richanna=40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> *Cc: *Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>, "id-event@ietf.org" <
>> id-event@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [E] Re: [Id-event] Closing the SecEvent working group
>>
>>
>>
>> Annabelle,
>>
>> I would like to see this work being completed.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Bjorn
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Richard Backman, Annabelle <richanna=
>> 40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I’d like to hear from the working group on whether or not there is
>> interest in completing the Subject Identifiers draft  within secevents.
>> This work has more or less been put on hiatus given the chairs’ previous
>> decision not to continue with it within the working group, but it remains a
>> dependency for other work, and a number of people within the working group
>> have expressed interest and support for it previously. If there is support
>> within the working group for resuming and completing Subject Identifiers,
>> then it would seem reasonable to me to do so within secevents.
>>
>>
>>
>> –
>>
>> Annabelle Backman (she/her)
>>
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>> *From: *Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Yaron Sheffer <
>> yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 2:06 AM
>> *To: *"id-event@ietf.org" <id-event@ietf..org <id-event@ietf.org>>
>> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] [Id-event] Closing the SecEvent working group
>>
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>> Dear WG participants,
>>
>>
>>
>> As you’ve all seen, our last two deliverables, the SET HTTP delivery
>> specs, have both been approved for publication as RFCs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since the group has now completed its mission, we propose to close it
>> down. Unless there are objections (accompanied by credible work items)
>> within a week, we will ask the AD to do just that. Even with the WG shut
>> down, the mailing list will remain open for relevant discussions.
>>
>>
>>
>> We would like to thank the authors of the Push and Poll soon-to-be RFCs,
>> Annabelle, Mike, Marius, Morteza and Anthony. Many thanks also to the many
>> other working group members who contributed to these quality documents.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Dick and Yaron
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